Can Jehovah’s Witnesses Survive the Internet?

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A recent article from salon.com suggests that religion may not survive the Internet.  This may already be the case with Jehovah’s Witnesses. A new report published by JW Survey compares the 2012 worldwide membership statistics against Internet saturation.  Countries with high Internet availability are slowing in religious growth compared to other less developed areas.

It used to be much easier for a high-control religion to keep embarrassing and negative information from members and potential recruits.  The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, the mother organization for Jehovah’s Witnesses, has been quick to use copyright laws to remove secret information from the Internet.  For example, in 2010 when the secret manual used by congregation elders leaked online, Watchtower Legal issued a flood of DMCA takedown orders to have it removed.

A more recent and disturbing example is an October 2012 letter sent to congregation elders updating their policy in dealing with accused child molesters in their ranks.  A concerned whistleblower elder leaked the information to the Internet and it was posted with commentary on JW Survey. The letter contained shocking statements like, “It cannot be said in every case that one who has sexually abused a child could never qualify for … service in the congregation.” Again the Watchtower’s legal department sprung to action, citing copyright infringement which lead to a temporary takedown of the popular website.

Perhaps more surprising is the lengths that the Watchtower will go to remove its publicly available information from unofficial sources. From its inception, the religion has been geared toward the public distribution of its printed message, which it believes is the fulfillment of Jesus’s prophecy that the “good news of the kingdom” would be spread throughout the earth.  It may be assumed that a religion that seems greatly concerned that its message be widely available would be grateful for exposure on popular Internet sites like YouTube. However this is not the case.

In 2012 attendees of the Watchtower’s worldwide conventions were provided a free animated children’s video.  One segment contained the story of a young Jehovah’s Witness child who brings home an action figure given to him from a schoolmate.  The mother quickly determines that the action figure uses “magic” and guilts the child into throwing it away. Within the carefully conditioned Jehovah’s Witness community the video hardly provoked a response, but to outsiders it was seen as an example of cruel emotional manipulation and indoctrination  The video was uploaded to YouTube and viewed by thousands before it suffered a quick takedown by the Jehovah’s Witness lawyers.

The Watchtower’s use of the strong arm of copyright law has gone beyond this.  In 2005 it sued an ex-member who set up a website only offering short, if embarrassing, quotations from their publicly available literature. The religion asked for $100,000 in damages.  Lacking the resources to defend himself against the wealthy religion’s in-house legal team, the owner was forced to remove the critical website.

For organizations like the Watchtower, absolute control of their message is paramount.  It will not even allow its own adherents to spread their “good news” online. The November 1997 Our Kingdom Ministry (an internal bulletin) mandates: “There is no need for any individual to prepare Internet pages about Jehovah’s Witnesses, our activities, or our beliefs. Our official site (www.watchtower.org) presents accurate information for any who want it.”

While the Watchtower has had some success in stymying the release of damaging information on the Internet, it has not been able to stop it all. Such things as doctrinal flip-flops and past false end-of-the-world predictions are readily available to questioning Witnesses and potential recruits.

Prior to the Internet, the Watchtower tried to downplay its culpability in predicting the end of the world in 1975.  It blamed some of the members for unwise speculations.  However, quotes from the literature pointing to the year in various ways are available online. For example a 1969 issue of the Awake! magazine urges young Witnesses: “If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years.”  Another YouTube video offers a public talk given by a Watchtower representative in 1968 who urges a crowd of thousands to “stay alive until ’75”.

Another threat the Internet poses to the Watchtower, is that it allows the free exchange of ideas among Witnesses keen on examining the truthfulness of their religious teachings. About this their leadership warns,  “a few associates of our organization have formed groups to do independent research on Bible-related subjects. Some have pursued an independent group study of Biblical Hebrew and Greek so as to analyze the accuracy of the New World Translation. … ‘The faithful and discreet slave’ does not endorse any literature, meetings, or Web sites that are not produced or organized under its oversite.” (Kingdom Ministry, September 2007)

Despite stern warnings, web forums, such as jehovahs-witness.net, have provided a safe haven for active Jehovah’s Witnesses to exchange in free communication with each other, and even ex-members. On the Internet, doctrines, policies, and pertinent news is openly discussed in way that could never happen in a Kingdom Hall. This circumvents one of the high-control group’s most effective tools in quaffing free thought, the harsh, ritual shunning of ex-members.

Prior to the Internet, disfellowshipped Jehovah’s Witnesses, often faded away into obscurity.  Their friends and family in the religion were forbidden to speak to them.  Disfellowshipped ones had little means to network with each other, let alone current Jehovah’s Witnesses.  Web sites like Jehovah’s Witness Recovery offer ex-members an opportunity to connect with others for support and healing. Popular social networking sites like Facebook help Jehovah’s Witnesses to stay in touch with disfellowshipped family members, much to the leadership’s consternation.

High control religions like Jehovah’s Witnesses have good reason to fear the Internet.  By its nature, it bypasses the restriction on information and secrecy that allows cults to obtain and retain members. It seems that the Watchtower recognizes this threat. In a 2012 brochure intended to educate the public about Jehovah’s Witnesses, they warn: “Some websites have been set up by opposers to spread false information about Jehovah’s Witnesses. … We should avoid them.”  However as the evidence suggests, the public, or even its own members, are not heeding the religion’s warnings. As Internet availability grows, becoming accessible to all, the future looks grim for the Jehovah’s Witness religion.

¶ Despatched on Saturday, January 19th, 2013 at 4:25 pm and sorted in Essays. ¶ { ReTweet }

28 Responses

Danny HaszardJanuary 20th, 2013 at 12:14 am

The Jehovah’s Witnesses Watchtower is an oppressive authoritarian cult,a truly Orwellian world.They teach Jesus ‘return’ or his ‘invisible’ second coming October 1914.-Danny Haszard

(Yes,”help today is just a mouse click away”)

TrappedJanuary 20th, 2013 at 8:14 am

Excellent article!
It’s obvious that the WBTS is fighting a losing battle.
Like it’s been said,truth should have the strength to withstand scrutiny.

Lifelong HumanistJanuary 22nd, 2013 at 5:49 am

Thank you for a well-written, fair and honest essay. The Watchtower religion – Jehovah’s Witnesses – are definitely struggling to prevent their existing membership, far less potential new converts from checking out what other informed people have to say online about their bully-boy tactics to deviously indoctrinate and guilt their followers to follow their mind-control methods of retention. Clearly, many are not afraid to exercise their right to go online to find out exactly what they teach. I hope that finding out what JW’s really practice will cause many more to exit the religion, and scare any would be JW’s enough to want nothing whatsoever to to do with their dangerous, nasty cult!

Denis van PaassenJune 30th, 2013 at 3:56 am

They will not only survive the Internet.. they will rule it. See Alexa.com for stats. Since the Jehovah’s Witnesses changed their online presence (sept 2012) on http://WWW.JW.ORG this website managed to get a place in the top 2000 of most visited sites around the world. Keep in mind that there are about 635 Million different websites in the world.

And from all religious and spiritual sites and denominations the Jehovah’s Witnesses are NO.1 , again, according to Alexa.com. The only site that is one place ahead of them is the Bible itself (biblegateway.com)

So in many secular countries most religions are shrinking rapidly and indeed in those countries the growth rate of JW’s is not high. But at least in such cases they manage to stay as big as they are or post a small net gain. Compare that with those other christian denominations like the protestants and catholics.. closing church after church.

Kindest regards from the Netherlands

Darrin HartOctober 17th, 2013 at 12:41 pm

Excellent site! Love the humor! The Internet is causing many among Jehovah’s Witnesses to study, read and search for answers as to why they aren’t happy. The answers to so many questions are now accessible. The history, current practices and printed word of the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society are being exposed more and more each day.

http://www.leavingjehovahswitnesses.org

Monty EhrichOctober 26th, 2013 at 11:10 pm

I am a survivor of the Watchtower cult, and I pray that this marvelous tool to share knowledge, the internet, helps victims of the Watchtower to find their way to freedom.

DavidDecember 1st, 2013 at 2:08 pm

I think it is naïve to believe that the Jehovah’s Witnesses will not survive the anti-Witness websites, blogs and networks on the Internet. I say that because prior to the Internet many individuals were given and handed anti-Witness books, including those by Raymond Franz, and yet many of those individuals, when comparing what the Bible says with what others were saying, decided that the Jehovah’s Christian Witnesses were teaching the truth. We get many people that tell us they read this or that on the Internet about the Witnesses. However, when the we respond to the false allegations, most people tend to agree with us. The Bible truth cannot be hidden, we come with the spiritual “sword” of truth, the Bible, that demolishes all falsehoods against us. I for one think that in most cases that books by apostates and their tactics tend to backfire. How many people, including at least 15 that I know of, thought they were well prepare to argue against the Witnesses, using how to Witness to JWs books or guides, only to persuaded by a Christian Witness that was prepare to defend his or her faith in the Bible truths and Christ (1 Peter 3:15)? How many Witnesses do I know were told that the NWT Bible is different, even given entire books against the NWT, and when challenged by the Witnesses to compare different Bible versions, have come to agree that the NWT, in certain Bible texts, is accurately translated as many Catholic and Protestant Bibles, including those sponsored by Evangelicals, agree with the NWT rendering in either the main text or in the footnotes?
With regard to 1975, the WT publications never said that the end WILL come in 1975. 99.9% of the active Witnesses who read the publications carefully did NOT come to the conclusion that the end was coming in 1975. The WT clearly stated that while there was a possibility, it was certainly not definite, and the no man know the hour, quoting the words of Jesus.
“What about the year 1975? What is it going to mean, dear friends?’ asked Brother Franz. ‘Does it mean that Armageddon is going to be finished, with Satan bound, by 1975? It could! It could! All things are possible with God. Does it mean that Babylon the Great is going to go down by 1975? It could. Does it mean that the attack of Gog of Magog is going to be made on Jehovah’s witnesses to wipe them out, then Gog himself will be put out of action? It could. But we are not saying. All things are possible with God. BUT WE ARE NOT SAYING. AND DON’T ANY OF YOU BE SPECIFIC IN SAYING ANYTHING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND 1975. ” (The Watchtower, 15 October 1966, page 631 – emphasis added)

The May 1st 1967 issue of the WT stated “1975 marks the end of 6,000 years of human experience…Will it be the time when God executes the wicked…It very well COULD be, BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE.”

The WT articles were clearly speculative, never stating the END WILL come in 1975…articles using words that anyone with a grade school education would understand, such as MAY, COULD, and POSSIBLY. They never used the words DEFINATELY, WILL, or MUST when it alluded to what MIGHT or MIGHT NOT happen in 1975. And the fact the no man knew the day or the hour was stressed, as emphasized in the Truth book which was the main text book used to introduce new ones to the basic teachings of biblical Christianity.

The October 8, 1968 issue of Awake! clearly states after discussing the 1975 “Does this mean that the above evidence positively points to 1975 as the time for the complete end of this system of things? SINCE THE BIBLE DOES NOT SPECIFICALLY STATE THIS, NO MAN CAN SAY.”

The fact that certain individuals misquoted and misrepresented what the WT said, leaving out pertinent details, gives the WT every right to sue and demand that they remove the misquoted and misrepresented data off their sites.

CarlJanuary 6th, 2014 at 6:54 am

The Watchtower Organisation will maybe fall down, like the “Berliner Mauer” -sooner or later.
It already starts.

scotthomanJanuary 9th, 2014 at 3:11 pm

JW’s will “rule” the internet! HHAAAAhahahahaaaa… If they are controlled enough they will spend countless hours defending the very system which controls them. You can even sense the desperate emotion in the writing above that they have been hurt by this article.

Thanks for the article. I’m an atheist with a long JW past.

I’ve read about the 1975 issue a lot and even seen articles printed in later decades with the ‘bound volumes’ of the magazines in reprint compared to articles printed pre-1975. They’ve gone back and changed their predictions to exclude them. How 1984 is that?!!!

Just because some leader or writer says that 1975 isn’t necessarily what you’re hoping for doesn’t negate the article that says blatantly that 1975 will mark the destruction of this present system of governments, the beginning of the great tribulation and then the beginning of heaven’s direct rule over the earth and then finally the blissful and peaceful slavery (but everyone will be happy). That was a pretty big corporate screw up and there is no covering it up. 29 years later and people are still trying to deny it ever happened. Imagine yourself as a holocaust denier. Get over yourself. You’re not doing yourself or any of the readers any favors. this is a silly endeavor…please stop that.

Paul WisemanFebruary 15th, 2014 at 11:57 pm

There will always be Jehovah’s Witnesses, like there will always be viruses and belief in God. It goes with survival of the bastard, who wants to stay alive. Evolution doesn’t care about destroying hope, but God doesn’t want anyone to be destroyed, so stay in your isolated sinless void and hope to god you never be tempted by such.

d-boy4ChristFebruary 19th, 2014 at 8:09 pm

Clearly there are those who refuse to believe the truth, and will continue to remain loyal to their tainted beliefs no matter what.As the post before this one is a clear example of “someone bonding with their abuser” …tho, that may sound harsh but, anyone who has done any research what so ever into the historical origins of the founder (Charles T. Russel) and his beliefs, and the continual butchering of GOD’s Word; via changing of scriptures to suit it’s/their purpose, can/ would be able to see the many red flags!!! There are numerous errors and misinterpretations within the publications, study books and the New World Translation bible, no Greek or Hebrew Scholars used during the translation of this version, as well as,being ruled with an iron thumb of a few overseers. Jehovah’s Witnesses are some of the most beautiful people I’ve ever met, the organization however, (i believe) has used scare tactics for years to induce membership and still does with the threat of “dis-fellowship” which is completely harsh, judgmental and void of love! We must read and study God’s Word for ourselves and NOT be strictly under man’s interpretation of it. The Bible clearly states “test all things by the Holy Spirit” and “rightly dividing the Word!” John 1:1-3,14 clearly and plainly express the position of JESUS being LORD; which ties into Elohim (im in the original Hebrew indicates plural) walking through the Garden of Eden and GOD the Father says “let us make man in our image!” Who was The FATHER speaking to??: JESUS and THE HOLY SPIRIT! This all ties cohesively into John-10;30; where JESUS states “I and the FATHER are one” note;it reads this way in both versions of the bible. The KJ and the NWT. I encourage all Jehovah’s Witnesses to read for themselves and to research the beliefs of their (18 years old at the time) founder and who translated their bible.As I would also be careful to stop denying GOD his full amount of respect,praise,honor,glory, and worship by the limiting and devaluation of Jesus (to Micheal the Arc-angel) and de-personalization of the HOLY SPIRIT (merely GOD’s active force)…… read and study for yourselves!

Maeve CourteauMarch 16th, 2014 at 10:23 am

David,

The WatchTower Corporation shuts down friends who study the Bible without “authorization”.

There is nothing–NOTHING–more damning than that single thing.

All your arguments above are weak in regard to the fact that the Brooklynn men interject themselves between God and men in a fashion undreamed of by the Jesus of the Gospels.

Cozette TylerMarch 17th, 2014 at 5:53 pm

I’m an X Jehovah’s W. When I was a member I often was disappointed. Because I was being left out of things in the organization. I was not allowed to participate in bible studies. I had a very hard time preparing talks.The school overseer looked at me like I was dum.And said you know how to prepare a talk I should make you give the talk over again. My mom actually wrote the talk out and I gave it. By the brother saying that to me made me feel dum. He wanted me to feel that way by saying that. I should make you do it over again. I felt very sad that night. Because the talk wasn’t my work it was my mom’s. I was getting credit for my mom’s work. Not anything that I did on my own. I felt really bad that night I did not sing songs of praise with them. Or bowed my head in prayer with them. I cried saying to myself to the lord. Lord get me out of this help me find the true religion

Cozette TylerMarch 17th, 2014 at 6:37 pm

I also want to say something about what the young man David here who was giving his comment.you mentioned no man knows the hour. Neither the son of man knows the hour of God’s war. This is what the Jehovah’s Witnesses was first teaching. That Jesus did not know the hour and day of God’s war. They taught this from the Bible for many years. Now it’s changed the jehovah’s Witnesses are now saying that jesus christ now know the hour and day that the father is going to bring about this great war. Because at first they Jehovah witnesses said this was kept a secret for many years. I tell you another teaching that the Jehovah’s Witnesses have changed. For many years from the the time of 1914. The Jehovah’s Witnesses taught from their bibles and their mmagazines. That Jesus Christ has begin ruling as king since the year 1914.They also taught the dates from the time of King Never Chad nazer leading up to the year 1914. I would like everyone to look thus information up and do research for yourself. Now the Jehovah’s Witnesses are teaching that jesus has not begin ruling yet until after God’s great day his war. Right now the Jehovah’s Witnesses are saying saten is ruling.Jesus is still waiting to rule this is what their teaching now.look up when they said jesus began ruling as king.And when Jesus said no man knows the hour and day. Jehovah’s Witnesses have changed their teaching.

Cozette TylerMarch 18th, 2014 at 4:55 am

Another teaching I want to bring out about the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Now they teach that 1914 was not the tear Jesus began ruling as king.But rather the year he started cleansing out his organization. Meaning the separation of church from the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization. It also explains what stared in the organization. Such as the Theocratic ministry school. The first body of Elders. When disfellowshiped started.In 1914 that is when the Jehovah’s Witnesses say Jesus separated true religion from false. That was also the year a lot of the faithful and discreet slave class went to heaven the one that have died. Jesus is still waiting at the right hand of the father to rule.After God’s great war.

Cozette TylerMarch 18th, 2014 at 5:36 am

That article David was explaining was changed after 1975. Now the Jehovah’s Witnesses are saying they never said the world would end in 1975.

ElijahovahApril 30th, 2014 at 1:54 pm

How many words constitute a legal copyright. They have a 2013 Bible date of the book of Joshua completed in 1450bc. This is Rutherfords 40 years in Sinai 1515-1475bc and 25 years Joshua. But current 1513-1473bc requires 1447bc death. Josephus agrees it is 18 years from his death to Judge Othniel, but two anceint Christian chronologers clearly unveil 25 years upon theborders of Israel which is 1467-1442bc of which the current 19-year Jewish calendar starts its 19-year cycle with 1443bc, and Babylon with 1442bc. So are two words such as 2013 and Bible, or NWT Bible, or Joshua 1450bc? are these all copyrighted quotes LOL. I want all to know i worship Jehovah, i do not worship WatchTowerdom. I want them to know Jehovah clearly points out that the CITY wall to the WHOLE CITY between the holy Temple and WatchTowerdom will separate the two and destroy WatchTowerdom. It does not represent the temple. It is like Persian Haman sitting at Jewish queen Esthers table (wife of king Jesus), like Judas sitting at the table of Jesus. Jesus is not about to reject Jehovah if Roman soldiers or Pharisees kill his mother Mary. Unlike many immature elders who torture my mother to affect me, and have done so since i was 9. Not to mention they were there in the hospital and did NOT stop the blood transfusion that she demanded not be given here. What good are elders, if i say to a nurse DO NOT RAPE MY MOTHERS CONSCIENCE because still in after-surgery shock she was still aware enough to say no blood, (popping her eyes out in fear of the nurse) and still a bag of plasma was then put on her the next day, and i was the only real christian to find out what that was hooked up to her that day. Now that i made my stand here in this post, my point is that was neglect. But i do not neglect. In fact elders thru a fit over who is responsible on her blood card, not whether she gets blood or not. In fact i proudly state that everything written by me for 30 years is free-public domain, no copy-right because what Jehovah gives to me free, i give free. The bible needs no copyright to protect its truth no matter what language or who tinkers with it; so nor does the revelations given to me form that same God. And since my works of writing are worth billions more than any church because it potentially tells 8 billion people right now how to survive an asteroid, i respect NO COPYRIGHT. If youre a church then try to sue me. I need no wealth nor permission to defend Jehovah. I stood on Mount Ararat having gotten there with no money and no military permit. And it taught me not to fear. Mordecai said to Esther, wake up, get up, comply to Jehovah or you will be replaced and youre house will die. If 10,000 of 144,000 obey 10-bad spies of Canaan or 8 bad spies of NYC, then all 10,000 will be replaced as Esther, just as all 600,000 in Sinai were replaced with the next younger generation. Jehovah will corner Obama to announce the date of the asteroid the computers and telescopes will definately find, and at that time Esther complies, or Jehovah will replace her. If Esther follows the 8 spies who have not woken up, then she will be replaced in the days before asteroid strikes, because as with Ishmael and Isaac and babay Jesus, it is the child who is saved, must be saved, thru Armageddon. This is not about saving the mother of the great crowd, the wife of Jesus, should she be like Vashti, Athaliah, Mary, etc. Minutes before his arrest Jesus referred to his death and himself as a pregnant woman about to give birth.

ElijahovahApril 30th, 2014 at 2:10 pm

PS the 100 years is significant. The birth of Ishmael to Abram was ONE GENERATION in 86 years (2000-2001 Moslem). The birth of Isaac was the promised generation at age 100. Scholars dicker whether being in Egypt 4 generations is the same as being in Egypt 400 years. Lastly, this is the 40th year of 1975, as in Israel was punished to walk in Sinai wilderness 40 years because they were ALL WRONG in their behavior and attitude, and their children then got the promised land. Proving WatchTower wrong and unwilling to admit it is proof Jehovah is correct and true. The hour is here. The Lamb will be slaughtered, the sheep scatter, and the Lamb will appear 40 days in flesh to the very day of asteroid impact. You dont have to believe this crap of mine. Wait for the asteroid, and then recall this was the answer what to do about it.

ElijahovahApril 30th, 2014 at 2:54 pm

Another PS. I am not aware of God’s kingdom not ruling in 1914. If they change that, then they have spit on the license Jehovah has provided, saying it means nothing legally. Case#1, words in Ezra are holy sacred word of God, this includes quoting the legal license a marriage license of building a temple of God in the words of a pagan king Cyrus. Case#2, pagan Britain recognized the extreme rare frozen Dutch harbor crushing its ships when they proclaimed war on Britain as bring an Act Of God, and in return they gave to God what they regarded as 6000 years in 1763 as also then end of 2300 years after Daniel’s death. So they gave to God (and His people) the right in all British lands to have religious license as protected religious sanctuary. Case#3, the Dutch gave up American new Amsterdam to the British to become New York. Case#4, a British license was given to the IBSA of NYC in 1914 on June 1 (the mayan new year 360-day tun), 20 days after the real new year came on May 12 as year 6001 completed 4344 years from 2370bc. CONCLUSION: To deny this license as merely pagan cooperation with nations, is to deny Ezra’s including the legal license of Cyrus as being holy word from God. Jesus had a cousin Elijah, and Esther has a cousin Mordecai, that’s me. Wake up bitch, or your death will be like Judas, instead of honorable like Jesus. Jehovah will complete his 144,000 in heaven before the asteroid date announced by Obama. Satan must lose. Satan will lose. This trial will win as it did with Jesus.

MaryJune 20th, 2014 at 2:49 pm

I was baptized as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in 1971, after attending the meetings since infancy. The Watchtower Society did teach that Armageddon was coming in 1975.

YouTube JehovahsElijahJuly 7th, 2014 at 7:29 pm

With no intended defense of them or anyone i know the books well enough to say that 1975 was never outright predicted. In all cases it was insinuated and implied so that no commitment could or would be made to it. Remarks such as Would it not be fitting, and would it not be logical to expect it. very vague language was kept in all times, and it was elders and pioneers and members who then said claimed it was definate and that saying it may be 1976 or 1978 or 1980 meant you defied the govenring body and did not have FAITH like they do. Those who insisted 1975 was coming and would happen are those who abused others who could see the material was not specific and allowed time. Then those guilty of saying it left because it didnt happen, and many others guilty of saying it then went into wicked lying denial that they had never read the material that way, when they had. The guilty are not the books nor writings, but rather the liars in all the small Halls who lie and deny that form their lips they were saying it. The lies were not in the books that all of you publish trying to expose, the lies were from baptized members on the small laity level. AND they are still there lying saying THEY didnt say it, and will accuse me or others of accusing the org head Governing Body of lying. The individual liars are hiding their sin in the light of the ruling corp and claiming the accusation is against that Leader not against them the individual. But that is not true. It was them the people, who are still there, not the books not the Leader. Elders would do this same game too. An elder abuses, finanically, sexually, pedophile etc, and when approached by a non-elder member then would accuse the congregation member as being not against them (the one sinning person) but would hide his sin by saying your against us the whole body of elders. People are this way at work too. One person who doet like you will shout out WE dont like you. They rally. So you see the wicked who rally exist in the world, get baptized as JWs, and do not change, they will still rally and kill YOU to save themselves.

50 YR VET KEN BREWER EX JWNovember 25th, 2014 at 1:33 pm

how wonderfull let.s all be politicaly correct, fight nice now . only in this illusion of freedom is this possible.THIS ORGANIZATION IS CRIMINAL!!!! Crime boss,s reaping lives and money. WHERE IS THE MOVEMENT!!! THEY NEED TO BE STOPPED !!! an like war crime brought to JUSTICE. AND STOPPED!!!!

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